ok guys check this out i have got home and uploaded the video of me in the cockpit with the guys landing then there is the take off ones as well

this really shows both sides of the story

you can only download 90 times so maybe a moderator or huey duey and luey can upload the link or show the vid on here

Just realized that those extra photos did not get posted.  We will get them posted in the near future.

-Dave